[Discussion] TRC ch 225 and xxxHolic ch 184

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

What did he choose? What will end the loop?
Looks like these chapters will bring answers soon, but does anyone have any theories?

Comments

[chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com]

I am curious as well. Whatever decision Doumeki will make, it will effect everyone it seems.

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

yeah, it's kinda amusing that Doumeki will be a big part in everyone's lives.

[chibi-mitsuki.livejournal.com]

I think its nice. Since R!Syao knows what he wants to do (and the clones i guess) as well as Watanuki, its Doumeki's turn to shine. It will be interesting to see what comes out of the egg o3o

[epicureal.livejournal.com]

I have no theories or anything, but poor Doumeki, being shafted with some kind of huge world-changing decision! What really bothered me about the chapter was the glasses. Why did a Syaoran have them, and why did Watanuki get given them now? Is there some kind of greater significance to them? :c

That last page with him holding them and the kimono made me think he was going to put it on :|

[theemptyheart28.livejournal.com]

"That last page with him holding them and the kimono made me think he was going to put it on :|"

I thought that too xD

I am really confused with all what's going on, in both mangas. We never know what to expect from Clamp.

I miss kurogane and fay too, wonder when they will appear again.

[loveless-chan.livejournal.com]

Well, Watanuki had lost his glasses in the dream and they're in the dream in that scene, Syaoran must have found them and gave them back to Watanuki.....

[kaleido-steph.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, I just keep thinking that what Watanuki saw [both Syaorans and the glasses] it's a certain future on tsubasa... hmm, idk, i'm just really confused right know... at least in TRC the flashback is done, so we can actually see what the heck it's going to happen...

BTW, how cute when Syaoran father gives the Jian to Syaoran son, and since it's too big he almost fall, xD

[cutesherry.livejournal.com]

I am still wondering how could Clone|Syaoran be related to Clow Reed, considering that both Clow Reed -and the Li clan he is related to, we all know his mother was a Li- are from CCS, while Clones|SxS are from another dimension....
Some people theorized, the past months, that Clow Reed might just have been traveling around worlds and have more family aside from CCS, but what about the whole Li family? It's not like they could all just duplicate themselves and go around with Clow Reed in his travels ^^;;
The other theory I read online was someone who suggested that Clone|SxS are actually in CCS world, but simply not at the same time as the child CCS|SxS we know; but then, what about the meeting between CCS|Sakura and CLone|Sakura and her saying she met a counterpart of herself from another world...?
I think both are wrong, and just can't come with anything myself, too confusing @___@


Something else is: where is Watanuki in all this?
Meaning: wasn't he supposed to have been raised by those two and Clone|Syaoran supposedly taught him how to cook and both parents named him and changed his physical appearance etc...? And then they "sacrificed" themselves for their precious child and blablabla?
Or should we suppose that Watanuki, just like we saw him when he was created, was actually already 7 to start with and was never concretely raised by those two: meaning they all only got the memory of being together as a family but it didn't actually happen...? Ugh, another hard thing to explain =___=

Clamp still got a lot to say...

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

judging from what clamp usually writes, we'll probably still be missing some story pieces by the end of all this.

i'm pretty sure they raised their kid from baby to child without a hitch in time.

[suzaku18.livejournal.com]

It's also possible that the setting C!SxS met up in again is the CCS!World, but not exactly the same dimension as that we know of (Since C!Sakura mentioned of 'sending a letter' to her Touya-niisan).
You can think of it as ..
CCS!World A = The first one CLAMP introduced us with.
CCS!World B = Where Clone!SxS 'reincarnated'.
Both are in the same universe, but only different dimension / timeline.
Darn, am I making sense? Dx It's hard to translate to words!

As for Watanuki .. I'm thinking that maybe that's in yet another dimension; as a result of what R!Syaoran did.

The recent chapter made me think: if R!Syaoran is actually the son of C!SxS in another dimension, then could we really continue saying that R!Syaoran is the "real" one and C!SxS are but "clones"?

Pfffft. CLAMP, you have destroyed whatever logic and rationale I contain. xDD

[clow-shirow.livejournal.com]

I was surprised by the glasses trade between the Syaorans and Watanuki obtaining them O_O
As Doumeki watched it through his eye, Watanuki should have watched it too, but how...?
My theory is one of two Syaorans Doumeki watched wasn't Syaoran but Watanuki, his parallel existence: R!Syaoran gave back his "another me" the glasses he lost in The World of Dreams, but no idea who this happened and what this means with "their decision..."

However, Watanuki creeps me in the end of this chapter and the FWR = Watanuki theory is getting closer to me O_O

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

FWR = Watanuki? that would be very different. i think the majority thought is Clow = Watanuki...but hey, I guess anything is still possible.

[miyazawa-lulu.livejournal.com]

At least in the spanish TRC fandom, the FWR=Watanuki theory is quite popular. I'm one of its supporters actually XD

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

oh, someone on 2ch is suggesting that Watanuki = true child of Sakura. that could be interesting, too.

[tryxkittie.livejournal.com]

I can't even say I Care right now. I'm just pissed I waited two weeks for that boring ass chapter.

[nokiirat.livejournal.com]

haha. i like that honesty. :)

[tezuka-zone-pot.livejournal.com]

@_@ I thought I couldn't be more confused, but...can someone perhaps tell me why C!Syaoran and C!Sakura went into the tube? What intention lies there?

[outou.livejournal.com]

C|Sakura had a dream in which she saw her son and R|Sakura trapped in the tube; when R|Sakura's wings opened and took her away, she was separated from Junior (R|Syaoran) forever. No matter how long the two of them searched, they would never find each other. (We don't know how this would have happened, however--who would put them in the tube, why, etc. Presumably we'll be learning about that later.)

Thus, C|Syaoran and C|Sakura chose to enter the tube instead, so as to spare their "real" selves that fate. Of course, they were able to leave the tube and reappear at the final battle (instead of being sent to different worlds, like Junior and R|Sakura apparently were in C|Sakura's dream), so they're trying to defeat F.W.R. and end the time loop, too.

I hope that was clear! It's getting difficult to explain the plot, to be honest. :/

[suzaku18.livejournal.com]

.. I think I love you. xD

[tezuka-zone-pot.livejournal.com]

Your explanation makes sense :D Thank you very much <3

[snoopygirl11.livejournal.com]

It was nice to have new chapters at last ^^ I loved that scene of two Syaorans together (fangirl here XD). But does this mean both RSyaoran and his father were in the Dream World (to be able to give the glasses back to Watanuki)? But...only the soul can go to the Dream World (they can't both have died or sumthing) 0_o Sooo confused...

"My theory is one of two Syaorans Doumeki watched wasn't Syaoran but Watanuki, his parallel existence: R!Syaoran gave back his "another me" "

I really like that theory! :D

[ragingfirefall.livejournal.com]

I'll add my voice to those who are too mightily confused to come up with any concrete theories at the moment...though there was one line I found interesting. In the xxxHolic chapter, Mokona said something about how Doumeki's egg could only be used once because nothing could be born from it...perhaps it was just the phrasing of the translation, but to me that seemed to imply that an egg that CAN hatch (such as Watanuki's, that Tanpopo was born from) might have more than one use. Does that make sense? I'm probably just reading too much into things, anyway.

Whatever the case, hurrah for updates! ^_^

[kishiu.livejournal.com]

OMG Watanuki is FWR!!! ok I'm just crazy, sorry.

[shaoron88.livejournal.com]

I think that:

- Yuuko = FWR's mother

- FWR = Clow's son

- Watanuki = Clow